Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:34:22 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:34:12 -0500 Received: from out018pub.verizon.net ([206.46.170.96]:44983 "EHLO out018.verizon.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:34:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:30:59 -0500 From: Skip Ford To: Linus Torvalds Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: A modest proposal -- We need a patch penguin Mail-Followup-To: Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <200201282213.g0SMDcU25653@snark.thyrsus.com> <200201290137.g0T1bwB24120@karis.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 03:23:11AM +0000 Message-Id: <20020129143359.BBSA15035.out018.verizon.net@pool-141-150-235-204.delv.east.verizon.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Linus Torvalds wrote: [snip] > A word of warning: good maintainers are hard to find. Getting more of > them helps, but at some point it can actually be more useful to help the > _existing_ ones. I've got about ten-twenty people I really trust, and Then why not give the subsystem maintainers patch permissions on your tree. Sort of like committers. The problem people have is that you're dropping patches from those ten-twenty people you trust. Each subsystem maintainer should handle patches to that subsystem, and you should remove your own patch permissions for only those subsystems. You could get involved with only changes in direction that affect more than one subsystem. > quite frankly, the way people work is hardcoded in our DNA. Nobody > "really trusts" hundreds of people. The way to make these things scale > out more is to increase the network of trust not by trying to push it on > me, but by making it more of a _network_, not a star-topology around me. > > In short: don't try to come up with a "patch penguin". Instead try to > help existing maintainers, or maybe help grow new ones. THAT is the way > to scalability. - -- Skip ID: 0x7EDDDB0A -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAjxWsfkACgkQBMKxVH7d2wpAfQCfRMoMirEH2/KRYMowNkZyMCBi CEYAoM4akKt8Ifl20cvkA5UG8Kb4p9Tb =q5bM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/