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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:35:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
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        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: A modest proposal -- We need a patch penguin
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> None of the examples you cited so far are convincing to me, and i'd like
> to explain why. I've created and submitted thousands of patches to the
> Linux kernel over the past 4 years (my patch archive doesnt go back more
> than 4 years):
> 
>   # ls patches | wc -l
>      2818
> 
> a fair percentage of those went to Linus as well, and while having seen
> some of them rejected does hurt mentally, i couldnt list one reject from
> Linus that i wouldnt reject *today*. But i sure remember being frustrated
> about rejects when they happened. In any case, i have some experience in
> submitting patches and i'm maintaining a few subsystems, so here's my take
> on the 'patch penguin' issue:
> 
> If a patch gets ignored 33 times in a row then perhaps the person doing
> the patch should first think really hard about the following 4 issues:

1 - why doesn't someone at least ack the damn patch?
2 - why doesn't someone at least ack the damn patch?
3 - why doesn't someone at least ack the damn patch?
4 - why doesn't someone at least ack the damn patch?

There is no better way to avoid getting something good from someone than
to ignore them completely. The fact that things like reisser f/s patches
from the creator don't get in is an example, or don't you think they are
good enough?

-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.

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