Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:17:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:15:50 -0500 Received: from tmr-02.dsl.thebiz.net ([216.238.38.204]:34577 "EHLO gatekeeper.tmr.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:14:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:12:55 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Davidsen To: Horst von Brand cc: Robert Love , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable In-Reply-To: <200201212218.g0LMI8BQ002150@tigger.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Horst von Brand wrote: > Robert Love said: > > [...] > > > It doesn't have to run mostly in the kernel. It just has to be in the > > kernel when the I/O-bound tasks awakes. Further, there are plenty of > > what we consider CPU-bound tasks that are interactive and/or > > graphics-oriented and this adds much to their time in the kernel. [ snip ] > For the mostly positive (subjective) responses you see, there is something > called "psycology", which would predict that for _exactly_ the same "feel" > (whatever that may be) somebody who just made an effort downloading > patches, applying them, reconfiguring ad building a kernel "to make it feel > better" _will_ feel it better. I.e., nobody wants to have to say "Okay, > lots of work down the drain". Besides, those who see no difference will > shut up, those that delude themselves most will be vocal about it. Ah, that's it, we're deluding ourselves. To the point that booting a kernel without identification and having casual users watch the cursor move while running a standard low will result in those users sharing our delusion. -- bill davidsen CTO, TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/