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Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:50:14 +0300
From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
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To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
CC: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: A modest proposal -- We need a patch penguin
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Bill Davidsen wrote:

>
>The problem is that you don't trust ANYONE. There is no reason why you
>should be looking at small obvious patches to bugs (note bugs, not
>enhancements). In the last batch of messages I see agreement from Alan Cox
>and Eric Raymond that things are backed up. I see reiser filesystem
>patches, from the original developer, labeled "third try." Quite bluntly
>he is a hell of a lot better qualified to do bug fixes in that area than
>you are.
>
Whoa, in this case it is Marcelo, and his responsiveness is on the whole 
simply superb.  Right complaint, wrong example.  Marcelo also does a 
great job of having good reasons for rejecting patches on the rare 
occasions when he does reject them.  Is the real problem that you are 
comparing guys who have neither a day job nor a family to someone who 
has both?  I think maybe it is.  Linus, do you have other work 
responsibilities besides Linux?  With funding provided , could you work 
solely on Linux?

I remember when I used to hold a day job while working on ReiserFS and 
trying to manage a team of full-time programmers by email.  It sucked. 
 There is crap in ReiserFS that went in only because I didn't have time 
to fight it, and Reiser4 is a very much higher level of quality mainly 
because I can invest a lot more time into it.

Hans


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