Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753298AbYHaR0D (ORCPT ); Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:26:03 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753808AbYHaRZx (ORCPT ); Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:25:53 -0400 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:59473 "EHLO vavatch.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753686AbYHaRZw (ORCPT ); Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:25:52 -0400 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:25:47 +0100 From: Matthew Garrett To: Thomas Renninger Cc: Carlos Corbacho , linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Len Brown , Andi Kleen , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] ACPI BIOS Guideline for Linux Message-ID: <20080831172547.GA3077@srcf.ucam.org> References: <200807241732.23412.trenn@suse.de> <200808291729.53628.trenn@suse.de> <20080830124713.GA5910@srcf.ucam.org> <200808311518.25421.trenn@suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200808311518.25421.trenn@suse.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on vavatch.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1476 Lines: 31 On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 03:18:24PM +0200, Thomas Renninger wrote: > On Saturday 30 August 2008 02:47:13 pm Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Not really. It provides approximately no complexity for Linux drivers, > > and makes it easier for vendors to provide Windows support. WMI has not > > been the hard bit of the drivers I've written. I don't see any reason to > > ask vendors not to use it, > Autoloading does not work yet? > It is working fine with ordinary ACPI devices providing a HID. That's an implementation detail. We shouldn't be making recommendations to vendors based on Linux shortcomings. > > as long as they're willing to document their > > implementation. > I'll point that out, something like: > If you really have to use WMI for Windows compatibility reason, make > sure the important parts (is there already something to mention? > Against what is the driver loaded -> autoloading?) are documented well. There's no valid reason to suggest that vendors use an entirely custom solution over using WMI. In some ways, reverse engineering is easier - we can see all the entry points. But yes, vendors who want to support Linux should document their firmware interfaces. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/