Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757635AbYJIVwe (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:52:34 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1757382AbYJIVv5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:51:57 -0400 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:57016 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755856AbYJIVv4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:51:56 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 22:51:43 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: Davi Leal Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gnuherds-app-dev@nongnu.org Subject: Re: free tg3 ethernet driver Message-ID: <20081009225143.7999311d@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <200810092236.58534.davi@leals.com> References: <200810082353.31033.davi@leals.com> <20081008230827.6e1423fe@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <200810092236.58534.davi@leals.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.12; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1301 Lines: 30 On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 22:36:57 +0200 Davi Leal wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > > Well if you want to write new firmware for the device you'll need to > > reverse engineer the chip internals or convince Broadcom to document them > > for you. I suspect you'll have to get to the point of xraying the > > component slice by slice and need a multi-million dollar budget. > > People position seem to be continue to pledge to pay $151 to the developer(s) > (even if it's Broadcom in case they apply to the pledge system) who provide a > free driver for tg3 devices. Well thats good, another 1.999849 million dollars and you might get started. With the best will in the world if you go and pay Broadcom zillions to open source the firmware the only incentive you create is for them to keep future firmware proprietary to sell to you next time around. If on the other hand you buy non Broadcom equipment if you feel this way about the firmware then you create a far better economic incentive, and at $10 a NIC its not really hard to do that. Alan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/