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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:28:30 +0100
From: David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>,
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Subject: Re: A modest proposal -- We need a patch penguin
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On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 03:17:52PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Martin Dalecki wrote:
> 
> > And then we are still just discussing here how to get things IN. But
> > there apparently currently is nearly no way to get things OUT of the
> > kernel tree. Old obsolete drivers used by some computer since
> > archeologists should be killed (Atari, Amiga, support, obsolete
> > drivers and so on). Just let *them* maintains theyr separate kernel
> > tree...
> 
> 'old' architectures do not hinder development - they are separate, and
> they have to update their stuff. (and i think the m68k port is used by
> many other people and not CS archeologists.) Old drivers are not a true
> problem either - if they dont compile that's the problem of the
> maintainer. Occasionally old drivers get zapped (mainly when there is a
> new replacement driver).

To testify that even really old hardware is used, I recently received a
patch for 2.0.xx to add autodetection for wd1002s-wx2 in the
xd.c-driver. Not particularly recent hardware, but the person who sent
the patch uses it. Why deny him usage of his hardware when it doesn't
intrude upon the rest of the codebase?


/David
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