Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756894AbYJKNxs (ORCPT ); Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:53:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753146AbYJKNxi (ORCPT ); Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:53:38 -0400 Received: from pasmtpa.tele.dk ([80.160.77.114]:47844 "EHLO pasmtpA.tele.dk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752805AbYJKNxh (ORCPT ); Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:53:37 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:53:00 +0200 From: Jens Axboe To: petkovbb@gmail.com Cc: Robert Hancock , Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz , linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] ide: locking improvements Message-ID: <20081011135300.GP19428@kernel.dk> References: <48F010AB.7010009@shaw.ca> <200810111339.44998.bzolnier@gmail.com> <20081011120137.GA26835@gollum.tnic> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081011120137.GA26835@gollum.tnic> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1408 Lines: 35 On Sat, Oct 11 2008, Borislav Petkov wrote: > > >From my perspective the main gain of these patches is the increased > > maintainability and sanity of the code, scalability improvements are > > just an added bonus. > > and better code/improved scalability is a bad thing because... ?! It's a bad thing because nobody on earth cares about IDE scalability, from a performance POV a modern SATA controller is just better on several levels. I don't think anybody cares about IDE scaling on 8-16 cores or more, simply because NOBODY is using IDE on such systems. As such, trying to improve locking is a pointless exercise. And that is a bad thing, because code change invariably brings in code bugs. Then see previous mail on lack of coverage testing, and it can naturally be harmful. > > > rather like putting makeup on a corpse to me.. > > so _NOT_ true. Depends on what you think is the corpse. Since IDE is essentially dead and frozen, it IS a corpse and the phrase is then very appropriate. This is not a personal jab at the IDE guys and does not reflect on the (mostly) good work they do, just a reflection on the state of IDE in general. -- Jens Axboe -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/