Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:46:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:46:44 -0500 Received: from ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com ([166.70.28.69]:11575 "EHLO frodo.biederman.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:46:28 -0500 To: "H. Peter Anvin" Cc: "Erik A. Hendriks" , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Werner Almesberger Subject: Re: [RFC] x86 ELF bootable kernels/Linux booting Linux/LinuxBIOS In-Reply-To: <3C586355.A396525B@zip.com.au> <3C58B078.3070803@zytor.com> <3C58CAE0.4040102@zytor.com> <20020131103516.I26855@lanl.gov> <3C59DB56.2070004@zytor.com> <3C5A5F25.3090101@zytor.com> From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) Date: 01 Feb 2002 08:42:45 -0700 In-Reply-To: <3C5A5F25.3090101@zytor.com> Message-ID: Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org "H. Peter Anvin" writes: > Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > > a) More complex. Just barely. b) Yep. > > c) Yep. > > d) More flexible and can handle what ever it needs to do tomorrow, > > without mods. All firmware has it's own different format. With LinuxBIOS > > things are > > simple enough that you can add a make target instead of having to > > write a specific bootloader to support it. > > > > > I cannot agree with you on (d). In fact, you have already brushed off a > multiple of issues I have raised, such as interactivity. What is magic about interactivity? What makes this a different problem? We approach booting from totally different perspectives, which makes communicating clearly hard. If you spell out individual problems I will show you how I would solve them. I believe I have done my due diligence and provided appropriate channels for everything, but I'm willing to test it. > I don't particularly care if you want to make this the LinuxBIOS > platform-specific whatever, but when you start talking about making it the grand > universal thing, you have me seriously concerned. Hey it isn't wrong to dream of world domination :) Eric - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/