Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755417AbYJVKcX (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:32:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752601AbYJVKcN (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:32:13 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:43079 "HELO mail.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1752525AbYJVKcM (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:32:12 -0400 X-Authenticated: #14349625 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+s6a52kdKsGfabzr/EckaCq76tfcFwpTQAJYG4Dm bjPqOgfDLYI4BM Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] pending scheduler updates From: Mike Galbraith To: Ingo Molnar Cc: Srivatsa Vaddagiri , Peter Zijlstra , LKML In-Reply-To: <1224669821.6871.16.camel@marge.simson.net> References: <20081017172701.047939625@chello.nl> <20081020120538.GD10594@elte.hu> <20081021173529.GG11679@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20081022094019.GG12453@elte.hu> <1224669821.6871.16.camel@marge.simson.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:32:08 +0200 Message-Id: <1224671528.7511.11.camel@marge.simson.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 907 Lines: 21 On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 12:03 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote: > It has positive effects too, but IMHO, the bad outweigh the good. BTW, most dramatic on the other end of the spectrum is pgsql+oltp. With preemption as is, it collapses as load climbs to heavy with preemption knobs at stock. Postgres uses user-land spinlocks and _appears_ to wake others while these are still held. For this load, there is such a thing as too much short-term fairness, preempting lock holder creates nasty gaggle of contended lock spinners. It's curable with knobs, and I think it's postgres's own fault, but may be wrong. With that patch, pgsql+oltp scales perfectly. -Mike -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/