Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 10:57:36 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 10:57:26 -0500 Received: from garrincha.netbank.com.br ([200.203.199.88]:56073 "HELO netbank.com.br") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 10:57:14 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 13:56:47 -0200 (BRST) From: Rik van Riel X-X-Sender: To: Rob Landley Cc: Larry McVoy , Horst von Brand , Keith Owens , Linux Kernel List Subject: Re: Bitkeeper change granularity (was Re: A modest proposal -- We need a patch penguin) In-Reply-To: <20020202001058.UXDU10685.femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there> Message-ID: X-spambait: aardvark@kernelnewbies.org X-spammeplease: aardvark@nl.linux.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Rob Landley wrote: > On Friday 01 February 2002 11:38 am, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > You are presupposing that all the developers are checking in many bad > > changes and only one good change. And that all the bad changes are > > obscuring the good ones. That a correct statement of your beliefs? > > > > If so, what you are describing is called "hacking" in the negative > > sense of the word, and what my customers do is called "programming". > > Designing while coding is not a bad thing. It's often considerably more > efficient than spending a bunch of time up front coming up with an ivory > tower design that doesn't work in practice. Very few battle plans survive > the first engagement with the enemy. (It's nice to HAVE one. But if you > can't adapt when you're in the thick of things, you're in trouble.) You're confusing designing with "coming up with the most inflexible idea possible". I believe this says more about your experience (or skills) with designing than about the practice of coming up with a design before you start implementing. regards, Rik -- "Linux holds advantages over the single-vendor commercial OS" -- Microsoft's "Competing with Linux" document http://www.surriel.com/ http://distro.conectiva.com/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/