Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 14:59:59 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 14:59:50 -0500 Received: from [208.29.163.248] ([208.29.163.248]:1491 "HELO warden.diginsite.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 14:59:36 -0500 From: David Lang To: Alan Cox Cc: blumpkin@attbi.com, adam-dated-1013023458.e87e05@flounder.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 11:58:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: should I trust 'free' or 'top'? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org as an outside observer during that time it looked like Linus was rejecting patches from Rik (at least in part) becouse the reasoning behind them wasn't fully explained and it appeared to be deteriorating into 'tweak these magic numbers to fix problem A, discover that that caused problem B, tweak them again to fix B anc cause C .... tweak them again to fix J and cause A' type circles with nobody (other then possibly rik) understanding what was really causing the problems (at least if they did understand them they weren't posted here) the fundamental problem was that while the VM would work well most of the time, once in a while it would hit a pathalogical condition that would lockup the machine completely, the new VM was seen as not nessasarily being quite as good in the best cases, but avoiding the worst lockups (of course it had a few problems of it's own, but these seemed to be easier to fix without causing additional problems) David Lang On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Alan Cox wrote: > Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 17:11:43 +0000 (GMT) > From: Alan Cox > To: blumpkin@attbi.com > Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, adam-dated-1013023458.e87e05@flounder.net, > linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: should I trust 'free' or 'top'? > > > >The base VM in Linus tree has been broken since before 2.4.0 and while > > >somewhat better is still that - broken. The major vendors don't ship it for > > >a reason. > > > > Why is this? > > Linus kept ignoring Rik's patches and making other changes, then at 2.4.10 > switched to Andrea's VM and ignored most of the follow up changes that > made that one work > > > Believe it or not, im not trying to start a flame war, just trying to > > understand the logic. > > You've got me there. I don't understand either. > > Alan > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/