Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754162AbYKIGmy (ORCPT ); Sun, 9 Nov 2008 01:42:54 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751862AbYKIGmn (ORCPT ); Sun, 9 Nov 2008 01:42:43 -0500 Received: from mtagate5.de.ibm.com ([195.212.29.154]:55040 "EHLO mtagate5.de.ibm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751784AbYKIGmm (ORCPT ); Sun, 9 Nov 2008 01:42:42 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 08:41:48 +0200 From: Muli Ben-Yehuda To: Anthony Liguori Cc: Greg KH , Matthew Wilcox , H L , Yu Zhao , randy.dunlap@oracle.com, grundler@parisc-linux.org, achiang@hp.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, rdreier@cisco.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, Chris Wright Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/16 v6] PCI: Linux kernel SR-IOV support Message-ID: <20081109064147.GD7123@il.ibm.com> References: <20081106154351.GA30459@kroah.com> <894107.30288.qm@web45108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20081106164919.GA4099@kroah.com> <20081106174741.GC11773@parisc-linux.org> <20081106175308.GA17027@kroah.com> <49137255.9010104@codemonkey.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49137255.9010104@codemonkey.ws> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1310 Lines: 30 On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 04:40:21PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > We've been talking about avoiding hardware passthrough entirely and > just backing a virtio-net backend driver by a dedicated VF in the > host. That avoids a huge amount of guest-facing complexity, let's > migration Just Work, and should give the same level of performance. I don't believe that it will, and every benchmark I've seen or have done so far shows a significant performance gap between virtio and direct assignment, even on 1G ethernet. I am willing however to reserve judgement until someone implements your suggestion and actually measures it, preferably on 10G ethernet. No doubt device assignment---and SR-IOV in particular---are complex, but I hardly think ignoring it as you seem to propose is the right approach. Cheers, Muli -- The First Workshop on I/O Virtualization (WIOV '08) Dec 2008, San Diego, CA, http://www.usenix.org/wiov08/ <-> SYSTOR 2009---The Israeli Experimental Systems Conference http://www.haifa.il.ibm.com/conferences/systor2009/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/