Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:54:56 +0100
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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Jeremy Katz <katzj@redhat.com>
Cc: Andres Salomon <dilinger@queued.net>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
       Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
       Jordan Crouse <jordan.crouse@amd.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
       dsaxena@laptop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86 - Make CONFIG_OLPC dependent on CONFIG_MGEODE_LX
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At Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:44:58 -0500,
Jeremy Katz wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 15:29 +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > At Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:54:10 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> > > It's not about angering, it's about causing regressions in
> > > functionality.  Doing this will completely break the ability to run
> > > generic distros on the OLPC hardware without a special kernel.  Which
> > > has been something that a lot of work has gone on upstream to avoid for
> > > all sorts of cases (VMI, Xen, SMP, ...).  
> > 
> > But, it is broken.  The asm/olpc includes asm/geode.h and it refers
> > geode_gpio*() there.
> 
> The geode_gpio() users in asm/olpc.h are for some defines that really
> probably don't belong there and which aren't used elsewhere in the main
> tree afaict from a quick grep.  I'd be glad to send the patch to remove
> it :-)

... and this will break linux-next nicely :)

> > > > but what we really need to
> > > > do is to make geode_gpio* defined even when we're not specifically
> > > > building with MGEODE_LX.  I'm not sure how best to do that, but the
> > > > answer probably includes using the generic x86 gpio api.
> > > 
> > > This probably needs to be done as a precondition for getting the alsa
> > > changes merged or the alsa changes need to have the bits which depend on
> > > geode_gpio ripped out until it can be done.
> > 
> > Then let's stop inclusion of asm/geode.h from asm/olpc.h at first.
> > Any driver codes including asm/geode.h can be broken potentially
> > without a proper dependency.
> 
> Yes, but having a driver dependent on building for a specific x86
> variant is quite wrong. 

Not so.  Many drivers are very hardware-specific, and they are (must
be) based on certain architectures and platforms.  Look at a bunch of
drivers based on ARM-variants, for example.

> What would people think about a driver which
> was dependent on CONFIG_M586?  Keep in mind that CONFIG_M686 wouldn't
> then apply...

This argument could be applied only to a common base code, but not to
a device driver for a specific hardware.

IMO, the basic problem is rather that the platform and the CPU
selection is mixed up.  The geode GPIO stuff shouldn't belong to CPU
selection.


thanks,

Takashi
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