Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:54:50 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:54:40 -0500 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:65466 "EHLO bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:54:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:54:23 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Florian Weimer Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing Message-ID: <20020206085423.F7674@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Florian Weimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <87g04eljw6.fsf@CERT.Uni-Stuttgart.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <87g04eljw6.fsf@CERT.Uni-Stuttgart.DE>; from Weimer@CERT.Uni-Stuttgart.DE on Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 04:17:29PM +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 04:17:29PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > Linus Torvalds writes: > > > The long-range plan, and the real payoff, comes if main developers start > > using bk too, which should make syncing a lot easier. That will take some > > time, I suspect. > > Do you think that at some point, using BitKeeper will become mandatory > for subsystem maintainers? ("mandatory" in the sense that > non-BitKeeper input is dealt with in a less timely fashion, for > example.) If BK makes things dramatically easier for Linus, then there may be a naturally tendency for him to look at BK patches first. On the other hand, he's only been using it for a week and he isn't saying it is the best thing since sliced bread. So it's a bit premature to predict whether he will be using it in a month or not. We hope so, and we'll keep working to make you happy with it, but Linus is a harsh judge - if BK doesn't help out, he'll kick it out the door. And finally, almost all of the part of the back and forth over the last week was about how to make BK better at accepting and generating traditional patches. You will *always* be able to send BK traditional patches, whether Linus uses BK or not. That was true before he used it and his use of BK has done nothing but make it be better. For example, we're working out a plain text format for comments in the patch headers so that you can comment individual changes on a per file basis in the patch. So the summary is that you'll always be able to do regular patches, even if Linus continues to use BK. There may come a time where the value of using BK - to you - is quite high. If not, we're back to diff&patch or some other way. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/