Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755936AbYKRRTM (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:19:12 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755850AbYKRRSU (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:18:20 -0500 Received: from zrtps0kp.nortel.com ([47.140.192.56]:43824 "EHLO zrtps0kp.nortel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755550AbYKRRSQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:18:16 -0500 Message-ID: <4922F8C4.80509@nortel.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:17:56 -0600 From: "Chris Friesen" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2-6 (X11/20050513) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Markstr=F6m?= CC: Robert Hancock , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Developing non-commercial drivers ? References: <4922ED5A.3030808@shaw.ca> <7a9e70560811180852y9eb2bf6s8682609dcb10fd9f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7a9e70560811180852y9eb2bf6s8682609dcb10fd9f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2008 17:17:59.0958 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B39AB60:01C949A1] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1566 Lines: 34 Fredrik Markstr?m wrote: > At this point I feel that we have two possibilities, help our customer > violate GPL or say no to the project. I'd prefer a third option where > I could tell the customer that we can setup the project in a certain > way (some "cleanroom" setup ?) to ensure that the results can not be > considered derived work. > > Is your short answer also the definite answer considering this ? I'm not a lawyer, and you need to consult one. There isn't really a "definate answer" since it depends on copyright law, which varies by region. The key question is whether the driver is a derivative work of the kernel under copyright law. For the purposes of copyright law this is primarily a legal question, not a technical one. There are some that claim that a driver written for another OS and running in linux via a shim layer could qualify (especially if the closed-source portion is written without any knowledge of linux internals). Nvidia is one company that does this, but there are others as well. Also, releasing the driver under the GPL doesn't necessarily mean "released to the world". Technically, they would only need to provide source code to their customers. Of course, their customers would be free to redistribute, but it's unlikely that most of them would bother. Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/