Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753839AbYKRUV0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:21:26 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752503AbYKRUVS (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:21:18 -0500 Received: from www.church-of-our-saviour.org ([69.25.196.31]:37534 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752472AbYKRUVR (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:21:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:20:57 -0500 From: Theodore Tso To: Alan Cox Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Fredrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?Markstr=F6m?= , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Developing non-commercial drivers ? Message-ID: <20081118202057.GF29975@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , Alan Cox , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Fredrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?Markstr=F6m?= , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <63125.1227036333@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20081118192942.3c676f0d@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081118192942.3c676f0d@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@mit.edu X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1405 Lines: 34 On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 07:29:42PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > Not entirely. There are several reasons this may occur > - They could have something genuinely new - unlikely to be honest > - They could think they have something genuinely new but don't > - They may not yet have filed some relevant patent applications in which > case they have to worry about secrecy > > and other reasons. > If I had to guess, they're probably doing some kind variant of TCP, Crypto, or some other kind of networking offland trick. There really isn't much else you can do that might be considered new in an ethernet controller. And it's probably not new. > Probably they should talk to the Linux Foundation. I'm not sure that > assuming they are clueless is the first step. Understanding the problem > as they see it is more important and probably something the Linux > Foundation can help with and under a business to business framework. Well, I'm from the Linux Foundation, and I'm here to help. :-) Seriously, if they are willing to talk to someone, we're certainly willing to give them some free advice. My guess is that's not very likely, however. - Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/