To: phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Zero-clearing all zero-clearable bytes.
From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
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Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:03:24 +0900
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Hello.

Phillip Lougher wrote:
> Most filesystems will not create a sparse file if zero-byte filled 
> blocks are written.  To create a sparse file you normally have to seek 
> beyond the file end and then write blocks, leaving a hole in-between the 
> positions.
> 
> The information from stat can tell you if a file has been stored 
> sparsely, because the blocks used count will be less than the file size 
> suggests.
>
Then, I can use "dd if=/dev/zero" without worrying sparse files.

Phillip Lougher wrote:
> You don't mention what you're using to compress the ext3 image file.  If 
> you're using Squashfs then it's much better to zero-fill the blocks 
> rather than use 255, because Squashfs detects zero-filled blocks and 
> stores them sparsely.  This not only gets slightly better compression 
> (than a compressed zero-filled block), but reading is also slightly faster.
> 
Yes, I use squashfs.


What I wanted to do is "Zero-clearing *all zero-clearable* bytes".
Suppose blocks for inode are 8192 bytes and only 128 bytes are in use,
I think there are 8064 bytes I can zero-fill.
Suppose blocks for file data are 8192 bytes and a file's size is 1 byte,
I think there are 8191 bytes I can zero-fill.
Such bytes may have non-zero values because directory entries can be
unlink()ed and file data can be truncate()d.
I wished there is a utility to zero-fill such bytes.


Thanks a lot.
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