Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:03:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:03:47 -0500 Received: from zcars0m9.nortelnetworks.com ([47.129.242.157]:2260 "EHLO zcars0m9.ca.nortel.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:03:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3C62DF32.50FA6FC6@nortelnetworks.com> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 15:10:26 -0500 X-Sybari-Space: 00000000 00000000 00000000 From: Chris Friesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.17 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Harkes Cc: "Christopher Friesen" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: want opinions on possible glitch in 2.4 network error reporti ng In-Reply-To: <3C62CB25.75487AD5@nortelnetworks.com> <20020207195118.GB31329@ravel.coda.cs.cmu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Jan Harkes wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 01:44:53PM -0500, Chris Friesen wrote: > > The possibility of random dropping of packets in the kernel means that an > > infinite loop on sendto() will chew up the entire machine even if you've only > > got a 10Mbit/s link. This seems just wrong. > > What happens if you have the 100Mbit/s side of the link and the receiver > has a 9600baud dial-in modem.... > > The sending side needs to do throttling based on packet loss anyways, it > really doesn't matter that it's lost locally or on the network or at the > receiving host. Yes, this is true for general use. However, suppose I want to do an IP takeover and send out arp packets to force an update of the arp caches of everyone on the subnet. The network is tightly controlled and we know everything that's on it. How do I guarantee that my packets get out of the local system and onto the wire? Currently I send three packets in a row on failover, and another three packets every 10 seconds. It would still be nice to be assured that the packets actually made it onto the wire. This is linux, we like having absolute control over our system. Does it make sense to have no possible way of guaranteeing that a specific packet has made it onto the wire? Chris -- Chris Friesen | MailStop: 043/33/F10 Nortel Networks | work: (613) 765-0557 3500 Carling Avenue | fax: (613) 765-2986 Nepean, ON K2H 8E9 Canada | email: cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/