Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754028AbYKZCWa (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:22:30 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753193AbYKZCWE (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:22:04 -0500 Received: from www.church-of-our-saviour.org ([69.25.196.31]:35801 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753159AbYKZCWD (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:22:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:21:50 -0500 From: Theodore Tso To: Jon Masters Cc: Alan Cox , andy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Need to pay to use the word "Linux" in commercial products/services! Message-ID: <20081126022150.GA1410@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , Jon Masters , Alan Cox , andy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <2c918050811251439g713c71ddy252c37497b1199b@mail.gmail.com> <20081125225708.6399ba14@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <1227659082.3744.5.camel@jcmlaptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1227659082.3744.5.camel@jcmlaptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@mit.edu X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1894 Lines: 37 On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 07:24:42PM -0500, Jon Masters wrote: > > > > The GPL protects copyrights not trademarks. The Linux trademarking is an > > interesting question and I know a lot of companies take the view that the > > mark is unenforcable. On the other hand it stops abuse of the name for > > other unrelated software. > In addition, the Linux Mark Institute will give sublicenses free of charge for pretty much any reasonable uses where the Linux Kernel is used. (i.e., if someone wrote a Microsoft .NET application that whose only use was to send scary legal letters to Linux users, and some software company wanted to market this "Linux Blackmail Generator" as a program marketed to companies which held Patents but produced no useful products or services --- i.e., Patent Trolls --- I might well imagine that someone from LMI might cough, and say, "I don't think we'll give you a sublicense to use Linux in such a way). > Personally, I love washing my clothes with Linux detergent :) > > They tell me it's also a popular Operating System kernel. Trademarks are specific to a specific area. My favorite example was the British advertisements for vacuum cleaners, "Nothing sucks like a Vax" back when I was hacking BSD 4.3 systems on a Digital Vax/750. Of course there can be problems when companies expand beyond their original areas of their trademark registration --- hence the conflict between Apple Computers, Inc., and Apple Corps (a holding company which owned Apple Records and the copyrights to Beatle's music) when Apple started expanding into their iPod and iTunes store business. - Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/