Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757340AbYLDKa2 (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 05:30:28 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752920AbYLDKaS (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 05:30:18 -0500 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.26.193]:54259 "EHLO atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751667AbYLDKaR (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 05:30:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:32:06 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: "H. Peter Anvin" Cc: Theodore Tso , kernel list Subject: Re: SD/MMC cards: how crappy they are? Message-ID: <20081204103206.GD22396@elf.ucw.cz> References: <20081202144830.GB1549@ucw.cz> <493562A5.40308@zytor.com> <20081202165608.GD18162@mit.edu> <4935778E.1020405@zytor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4935778E.1020405@zytor.com> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1279 Lines: 28 On Tue 2008-12-02 09:59:42, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Theodore Tso wrote: > > > > If this is your random eject out from your HP laptop problem, note > > that random ejects while the card is writing can cause corruption of > > the flash translation layer (FTL), which for some really crappy cards, > > can permanently damage them; hopefully most of those are gone from the > > market, but I wouldn't be positive about that. The better ones will > > have some kind of journalling scheme for their FTL... > > > > I have seen flash cards die permanently from having a partition table it > didn't like written to it. Yes, the microcontroller on the flash card > tried to interpret the partition table, assumed to be MS-DOS style, and > would crash. Aha... that explains why I killed few flashcards by tar xzvf /dev/sdX files ... hopefully thats fixed in the better/bigger cards now. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/