Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752125AbYLEItc (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Dec 2008 03:49:32 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751027AbYLEItX (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Dec 2008 03:49:23 -0500 Received: from 74-93-104-97-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([74.93.104.97]:49354 "EHLO sunset.davemloft.net" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750773AbYLEItW (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Dec 2008 03:49:22 -0500 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:49:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20081205.004922.244597525.davem@davemloft.net> To: mingo@elte.hu Cc: a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, paulus@samba.org, tglx@linutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, eranian@googlemail.com, dada1@cosmosbay.com, robert.richter@amd.com, arjan@infradead.org, hpa@zytor.com, rostedt@goodmis.org Subject: Re: [patch 0/3] [Announcement] Performance Counters for Linux From: David Miller In-Reply-To: <20081205084233.GE2030@elte.hu> References: <20081205082431.GD2030@elte.hu> <20081205.002701.172921476.davem@davemloft.net> <20081205084233.GE2030@elte.hu> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.1 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 837 Lines: 21 From: Ingo Molnar Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:42:33 +0100 > Please let me repeat: it's a _fundamental_ thesis of performance > instrumentation to not disturb the monitored context. Your insistence on > _stopping_ the monitored task breaks that fundamental axiom! This is only a problem if you make your measurement quantums too small. Furthermore, there are multiple registers and states to update atomically when a perf counter overflows. You're read/write thing just doesn't cut it, especially for certain kinds of hardware. It's really a utopian view of the world. :) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/