Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754958AbYLGQVT (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:21:19 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754249AbYLGQVF (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:21:05 -0500 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.191]:46950 "EHLO nf-out-0910.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754206AbYLGQVD (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:21:03 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:21:01 +0100 From: "Kay Sievers" To: "Alan Cox" Subject: Re: Runaway loop with the current git. Cc: "Herbert Xu" , zbr@ioremap.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Linux Crypto Mailing List" In-Reply-To: <20081207160921.693f637a@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081207112335.0afd5192@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20081207155507.GA15355@gondor.apana.org.au> <20081207160921.693f637a@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1032 Lines: 25 On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 17:09, Alan Cox wrote: >> Even when this works around it, the problem that the kernel triggers >> module loading on /dev/console access stays and needs to be fixed >> instead. > > It isn't a problem. It is trying to have hotplug load a suitable driver. > This is what is supposed to happen. No, it's not. 5:1 is _in_ the kernel, and must not be tried to be loaded by the kernel. We need to make /dev/console access return -ENODEV if not available, not try to load a module for it. It is a problem. It's broken behavior, and it breaks shipped products with any innocent future driver change like Herbert's. Please start to think about the problem, and don't repeat things that do not make sense, and never made any sense. Thanks, Kay -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/