To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
       Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
       Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
       Stephane Eranian <eranian@googlemail.com>,
       Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
       Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
       Arjan van de Veen <arjan@infradead.org>, Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
       Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
       Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
       David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [patch] Performance Counters for Linux, v2
From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
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	<20081208113318.GA14723@elte.hu>
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:41:57 +0100
In-Reply-To: <20081208113318.GA14723@elte.hu> (Ingo Molnar's message of "Mon, 8 Dec 2008 12:33:18 +0100")
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Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> writes:

> This means that the only correct technical/mathematical argument is to 
> talk about "levels of noise" and how they compare and correlate - and 
> i've seen no actual measurements or estimations pro or contra. Group 
> readout of counters can reduce noise for sure, but it is wrong for you to 
> try to turn this into some sort of all-or-nothing property. Other sources 
> of noise tend to be of much higher of magnitude.

Ingo, could you please describe how PEBS and IBS fit into your model?

Thanks.

-Andi

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