Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:27:58 -0600
From: Marco Peereboom <slash@peereboom.us>
To: Mark Kirkwood <markir@paradise.net.nz>
Cc: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" 
	<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>,
       Morton Harrow <mharrow@linuxmail.org>, Miod Vallat <miod@online.fr>,
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       fedora-list@redhat.com, announce@fsfeurope.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org,
       licensing@fsf.org, claire.newman@canonical.com,
       freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: GPL version 4
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All this GPL blah blah is a huge waste of time.  It comes down to this;
nearly everyone on this list thinks that the GPL is criminally stupid so
stop trying to convince people here that it does not suck dog ass.

Lets not have this retarded debate again, *we* know *you* are wrong, end
of story.

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:12:40AM +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote:
> Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:31:15 +0800, Morton Harrow said:
>>
>>   
>>> I see with pain in my heart that the GPLv3 doesn't actually give the
>>> users of GPLv3 software the liberty and freedom the FSF has been
>>> fighting for. Instead they are forced to play by the strict set of
>>> terms the GPLv3 provides.
>>>     
>>
>> You missed an important philosophical point.  In Richard Stallman's world view,
>> it isn't the user's freedoms that matter, it's the *software*s freedom.
>>
>>   
>
> I don't think it is that bad - the intent is for the software to be  
> freely available for *people* to use. It is actually about our freedom.
>
> regards
>
> Mark
>
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