Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753418AbYLOBxT (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:53:19 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751649AbYLOBxH (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:53:07 -0500 Received: from natsu.mindrot.org ([116.66.166.108]:14938 "EHLO natsu.mindrot.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751345AbYLOBxG (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:53:06 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 566 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:53:06 EST Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:43:29 +1100 (EST) From: Damien Miller To: Mark Kirkwood cc: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" , Morton Harrow , Miod Vallat , rms@gnu.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, fedora-list@redhat.com, announce@fsfeurope.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org, licensing@fsf.org, claire.newman@canonical.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL version 4 In-Reply-To: <494576C8.3020501@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: References: <20080716213115.C747F7BC45@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> <33958.1216244510@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <494576C8.3020501@paradise.net.nz> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSO 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1191 Lines: 38 moving misc@openbsd.org to Bcc Please do not post discussions of GPL politics to OpenBSD mailing lists. You know we have different views, so cross-posting is pure trolling. -d On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:31:15 +0800, Morton Harrow said: > > > > > > > I see with pain in my heart that the GPLv3 doesn't actually give the > > > users of GPLv3 software the liberty and freedom the FSF has been > > > fighting for. Instead they are forced to play by the strict set of > > > terms the GPLv3 provides. > > > > > > > You missed an important philosophical point. In Richard Stallman's world > > view, > > it isn't the user's freedoms that matter, it's the *software*s freedom. > > > > > > I don't think it is that bad - the intent is for the software to be freely > available for *people* to use. It is actually about our freedom. > > regards > > Mark > > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/