Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754503AbYLRXKo (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:10:44 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751771AbYLRXKc (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:10:32 -0500 Received: from waste.org ([66.93.16.53]:41463 "EHLO waste.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751339AbYLRXKb (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:10:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [PATCH] Stop scaring users with "treason uncloaked!" From: Matt Mackall To: Herbert Xu Cc: davem@davemloft.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:06:13 -0600 Message-Id: <1229641573.3726.563.camel@calx> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1403 Lines: 32 On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 09:44 +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: > Matt Mackall wrote: > > These debug messages are uninformative and extremely alarming. Rather > > than reporting a peer as a treacherous attacker, report it more > > correctly as simply broken. > > What's next, you're going to remove "printer on fire" as well? > This message has been there for eons and is part of Linux lore. No one has printer ports any more so it hardly seems worth the trouble. Most people won't actually think their printer is on fire. But most people WILL think there is serious cause for concern when they see this for the first time in dmesg. Many will search the net for explanations and come away confused and not entirely reassured. And at least one clueless guy will call the police because he still thinks he's under attack. Now that certainly fits my definition of amusing and if my goal for Linux was to amuse myself at the expense of users, I'd be all for keeping it[1]. But perversely, I actually want users to enjoy their Linux experience. [1] Hell, I'd probably even get them to use git. -- Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/