Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758781AbZABRuP (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:50:15 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1757435AbZABRuA (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:50:00 -0500 Received: from stoneboat.aleph1.co.uk ([80.68.88.63]:3020 "EHLO stoneboat.aleph1.co.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757118AbZABRt7 (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:49:59 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 1424 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:49:58 EST Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:25:41 +0000 From: Wookey To: Embedded Linux mailing list Cc: Paul Mundt , Rob Landley , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , "H. Peter Anvin" , Sam Ravnborg Message-ID: <20090102172540.GE8858@knossos.aleph1.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Embedded Linux mailing list , Paul Mundt , Rob Landley , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , "H. Peter Anvin" , Sam Ravnborg References: <200901020207.30359.rob@landley.net> <20090102095023.GA28078@linux-sh.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090102095023.GA28078@linux-sh.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Aleph_One-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Aleph_One-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.6, required 6, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -2.60, NO_RELAYS -0.00) X-Aleph_One-MailScanner-From: wookey@wookware.org X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 213.165.225.113 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: wookey@wookware.org Subject: Re: PATCH [0/3]: Simplify the kernel build by removing perl. X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:23:22 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on stoneboat.aleph1.co.uk) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1373 Lines: 28 On 2009-01-02 18:50 +0900, Paul Mundt wrote: > Your main reasons against inclusion of perl seem to be that there is no > realistic expectation for target systems that will be self-hosting will > have perl included, or the inherent complexity in maintaining a coherent > cross compiling environment. Both of these things are issues with your > own environment, and in no way are these representative of the embedded > development community at large. It may well be true that most embedded people cross-build kernels and use native perl on a fat build box, but there are plenty of situations where being able to build kernels without perl is useful. Given the simplicitly of these patches I can't see any reason not to put them in, and appreciate Rob's work on this. And if cross-building perl is really easy, as some in this thread claim, can someone fix the Debian packages to do it, because that would be really useful (it appears to be of similar complexity to cross-building gcc, requiring a 2-stage self-referential build). Wookey -- Principal hats: Balloonz - Toby Churchill - Aleph One - Debian http://wookware.org/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/