From: Markus Heidelberg <markus.heidelberg@web.de>
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To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Subject: Re: PATCH [0/3]: Simplify the kernel build by removing perl.
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 04:38:13 +0100
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Rob Landley, 04.01.2009:
> On Saturday 03 January 2009 18:37:12 Leon Woestenberg wrote:
> > My argument on thin dependencies indeed mostly holds for run-time
> > dependencies (to reduce size) but also for build dependency (to reduce
> > complexity)*.
> 
> I usually just point to the gnucash 1.6 release as where this sort of thing 
> leads if you ignore it long enough:
> http://lwn.net/2001/0614/
> 
> These days, a more modern example is the way that after even the gentoo folks 
> gave up on trying to build openoffice (and shipped prebuilt binaries of it in 
> their "build everything from source code" OS), Open Office's own developers 
> described that project "profoundly sick" and "stagnating" ( 
> http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/12/28/0124230 ).

Now that you mention this the second time, I have to ask where you have
this information from. Since I use Gentoo, I was always able to compile
OpenOffice (version 1, 2 and now 3) myself.

At the same time, it was always possible to use prebuilt packages as an
alternative - the same way as it is possible for a few other packages
(Firefox, Thunderbird, Seamonkey, maybe more). But AFAIK compiling from
source is still the preferred method.

Markus

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