Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758338AbZAEAES (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:04:18 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751138AbZAEAED (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:04:03 -0500 Received: from mail.lang.hm ([64.81.33.126]:35195 "EHLO bifrost.lang.hm" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750788AbZAEAEB (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:04:01 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:05:56 -0800 (PST) From: david@lang.hm X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: David Newall cc: Kyle Moffett , Ben Goodger , Robert Hancock , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linasvepstas@gmail.com, "Jeffrey J. Kosowsky" , MentalMooMan , Travis Crump , burdell@iruntheinter.net Subject: Re: Bug: Status/Summary of slashdot leap-second crash on new years 2008-2009 In-Reply-To: <49614835.7000505@davidnewall.com> Message-ID: References: <3ae3aa420901021125n1153053fsdf2378e7d11abbc0@mail.gmail.com> <20090102210430.49649261@diego-desktop> <495E7849.4030706@shaw.ca> <495F0672.6020708@davidnewall.com> <8752a8760901022237r75d408b3i74c703c8ac2d4597@mail.gmail.com> <496076A9.7030907@davidnewall.com> <4960897D.5030603@davidnewall.com> <4961432A.80509@davidnewall.com> <49614835.7000505@davidnewall.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (DEB 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1333 Lines: 28 On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, David Newall wrote: > david@lang.hm wrote: >> then new zoneinfo files need to be sent out every time there is a leap >> second (which from other posts on this thread is potentially every month) > > Not every few months, for goodness sake! Leap seconds aren't that > common! These files do change regularly, however, sometimes on a yearly > basis, because that's how often the date might be changed when daylight > savings transitions. This is to say that leap seconds don't > particularly change the frequency of zoneinfo updates. another poster said that NTP packets include information about this month's leap second, so that implies that they could change monthly. the zoneinfo files normally do not change every year, they only change when !$#@$# polititions decide to monkey with things and change the rules (for the US this is once in the history of Linus IIRC), the aggregate of some country somewhere changing the rules means that more updates are created, but most people can ignore those updates if they don't directly apply to them. David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/