Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:45:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:45:28 -0500 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:1804 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:45:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 10:30:48 -0800 (PST) From: Linus Torvalds To: Jeff Garzik cc: Martin Dalecki , Subject: Re: PATCH 2.5.4 i810_audio, bttv, working at all. In-Reply-To: <3C6A5D79.33C31910@mandrakesoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > These changes are wrong. The addresses desired need to be obtained from > the pci_alloc_consistent return values. Let's face it, people won't care about the complex PCI interfaces unless they give you something useful. On most PC's, they don't. In short, don't expect driver writers to care about somethign that simply doesn't matter to them. Rant and rail all you want, but I think the thing needs to be simplified to be acceptable to people. Many of these things basically exists only on PC's, and are done on 1:1 pages (ie GFP_KERNEL), so "virt_to_phys()" works. Basic rule: it's up to _other_ architectures to fix drivers that don't work for them. Always has been. Because there's no way you can get the people who just want to have something working to care. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/