Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752424AbZAEQTZ (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:19:25 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751008AbZAEQTN (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:19:13 -0500 Received: from ns.firmix.at ([62.141.48.66]:5467 "EHLO ns.firmix.at" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750975AbZAEQTM (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:19:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3]: Replace kernel/timeconst.pl with kernel/timeconst.sh From: Bernd Petrovitsch To: Jamie Lokier Cc: Rob Landley , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Ingo Oeser , Embedded Linux mailing list , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , "H. Peter Anvin" , Sam Ravnborg In-Reply-To: <20090105150156.GD14503@shareable.org> References: <200901020207.30359.rob@landley.net> <200901031936.04642.rob@landley.net> <25035.1231045675@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <200901040043.08577.rob@landley.net> <20090104221356.GA32357@shareable.org> <1231114530.3310.6.camel@gimli.at.home> <20090105022349.GB1345@shareable.org> <1231152378.3326.14.camel@gimli.at.home> <20090105150156.GD14503@shareable.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Firmix Software GmbH Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:18:00 +0100 Message-Id: <1231172280.3326.138.camel@gimli.at.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 (2.22.3.1-1.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Firmix-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on ns.firmix.at X-Firmix-Spam-Score: -1.1 () AWL,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Firmix-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 () AWL,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Firmix-Envelope-From: X-Firmix-Envelope-To: Content-Disposition: inline Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1593 Lines: 45 On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 15:01 +0000, Jamie Lokier wrote: > Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > > I assume that the NFS-mounted root filesystem is a real distribution. > > Not unless you call uClinux (MMU-less) a real distribution, no. Not really. > > > (* - No MMU on some ARMs, but I'm working on ARM FDPIC-ELF to add > > > proper shared libs. Feel free to fund this :-) > > > > The above mentioned ARMs have a MMU. Without MMU, it would be truly > > insane IMHO. > > We have similar cross-build issues without MMUs... I.e. that a lot of Of course. > useful packages don't cross-build properly (including many which use > Autoconf), and it might be easier to make a native build environment Tell me about it - AC_TRY_RUN() is the culprit. And `pkg-config` supports cross-compilation only since 18 months or so. Before one had to rewrite the generated .pc files. [...] > You mentioned ARM Debian. According to > http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort one recommended method of > bootstrapping it is building natively on an emulated ARM, because > cross-building is fragile. That's of course the other solution - if qemu supports your $EMBEDDED_CPU good enough. Bernd -- Firmix Software GmbH http://www.firmix.at/ mobil: +43 664 4416156 fax: +43 1 7890849-55 Embedded Linux Development and Services -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/