Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757606AbZAHKjb (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Jan 2009 05:39:31 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753130AbZAHKjX (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Jan 2009 05:39:23 -0500 Received: from fw2.winet.de ([84.17.96.48]:56993 "EHLO fw2.winet.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751424AbZAHKjW convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Jan 2009 05:39:22 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 1211 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:39:22 EST From: Wolfgang =?iso-8859-1?q?M=FCes?= Organization: Auerswald GmbH & Co. KG To: "Matt Fleming" Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fixes and enhancements for the MMC SPI driver Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:19:00 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 Cc: "David Brownell" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Pierre Ossman" References: <20090108092407.GA6108@console-pimps.org> In-Reply-To: <20090108092407.GA6108@console-pimps.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901081119.00812.wolfgang.mues@auerswald.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1749 Lines: 47 Matt, Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 schrieb Matt Fleming: > My concern is that completely broken cards may be able to get away with > more if the timeout is extended. Ah, and you think that the failure of these cards in some embedded devices will push the vendors of these cards to fix their bugs? Sorry, I don't think so. If this driver will run in more than 50% of all SD card devices: yes. But in reality, it will be below 1%... > There is clearly a tradeoff here between supporting non-conforming cards > and easily detecting broken cards. IMHO, not supporting a non-conforming card (if you CAN) is ignorance. Ignorance to the user, which you leave alone with her problems. > Someone suggested to me off list that having a configuration option to > enable/disable the longer timeout is a good compromise, and I agree. I don't see value in this compromise. The person which is able to turn the configuration option will be != the user of the device and != the owner of the card. best regards ? i. A. Wolfgang M?es -- Auerswald GmbH & Co. KG Hardware Development Telefon: +49 (0)5306 9219 0 Telefax: +49 (0)5306 9219 94 E-Mail: Wolfgang.Mues@Auerswald.de Web: http://www.auerswald.de ? -------------------------------------------------------------- Auerswald GmbH & Co. KG, Vor den Grash?fen 1, 38162 Cremlingen Registriert beim AG Braunschweig HRA 13289 p.h.G Auerswald Gesch?ftsf?hrungsges. mbH Registriert beim AG Braunschweig HRB 7463 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Dipl-Ing. Gerhard Auerswald -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/