Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754940AbZAIK5T (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jan 2009 05:57:19 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752271AbZAIK5I (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jan 2009 05:57:08 -0500 Received: from hawking.rebel.net.au ([203.20.69.83]:43815 "EHLO hawking.rebel.net.au" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752234AbZAIK5H (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jan 2009 05:57:07 -0500 Message-ID: <49672D75.4060201@davidnewall.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:26:53 +1030 From: David Newall User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080227) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com CC: Willy Tarreau , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kernel Blocking Firewall References: <40416.166.70.238.44.1231467823.squirrel@webmail.wolfmountaingroup.com> <20090109064658.GG5038@1wt.eu> <37611.166.70.238.44.1231486566.squirrel@webmail.wolfmountaingroup.com> <20090109084540.GH5038@1wt.eu> <40547.166.70.238.44.1231488906.squirrel@webmail.wolfmountaingroup.com> <20090109090956.GA28484@1wt.eu> <55312.166.70.238.44.1231490626.squirrel@webmail.wolfmountaingroup.com> In-Reply-To: <55312.166.70.238.44.1231490626.squirrel@webmail.wolfmountaingroup.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 825 Lines: 16 jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com wrote: > Allowing a server on a dynamic IP range to act as a mail server is what is > stupid. Sorry to be argue semantics, but I think it's SMTP clients that are the major cause of spam. Many, probably most, ISPs provide an SMTP relay for their subscribers, and blocking these dynamic addresses doesn't present a hard impediment for delivery of their mail to you. None the less, to say that people on a dynamic IP address should be *obliged* to go through a relay is offensive. (Not that you did say that, but I think it's what you had in mind.) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/