Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:39:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:39:02 -0500 Received: from dsl254-112-233.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([216.254.112.233]:29456 "EHLO golux.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:38:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:13:15 -0500 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: Larry McVoy , Jeff Garzik , Linux-Kernel list , dirk.hohndel@intel.com Subject: Re: Disgusted with kbuild developers Message-ID: <20020215121315.A8249@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: "Eric S. Raymond" , Larry McVoy , Jeff Garzik , Linux-Kernel list , dirk.hohndel@intel.com In-Reply-To: <3C6D3D9A.565EC59D@mandrakesoft.com> <20020215115147.A7528@thyrsus.com> <20020215092556.G8353@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020215092556.G8353@work.bitmover.com>; from lm@bitmover.com on Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 09:25:56AM -0800 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Larry McVoy : > Yeah, there is. The point of *open* source is that it is *open*, Eric. > Jeff, if I understand him correctly, is making the point that if a > system can't stand up to public scrutiny, trying to get it in by private > campaigning is lame, not the open source way, and a little bit sleazy. So what "private campaigning" is going on here, exactly? Dirk approached me because he was concerned that politics and poor communication might be getting in the way of some valuable work. He asked me to have the kbuild team fill him in on the background, and I relayed that request. The kbuild team's discussion with Dirk is taking place on a public mailing list. I'm bewildered. What's the problem here? -- Eric S. Raymond - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/