Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S935016AbZAOXu6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:50:58 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752125AbZAOXur (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:50:47 -0500 Received: from extu-mxob-1.symantec.com ([216.10.194.28]:33898 "EHLO extu-mxob-1.symantec.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751555AbZAOXuq (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:50:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:50:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Hugh Dickins X-X-Sender: hugh@blonde.anvils To: James Bottomley cc: Grant Grundler , Jens Axboe , Greg Freemyer , Tejun Heo , Michael Tokarev , Kay Sievers , Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox Subject: Re: [PATCH] block: export SSD/non-rotational queue flag through sysfs In-Reply-To: <1232061429.5966.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: References: <200901051952.58029.bzolnier@gmail.com> <20090106073515.GY32491@kernel.dk> <4964866D.8010503@msgid.tls.msk.ru> <1231342473.3282.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <496ECBA0.60209@gmail.com> <87f94c370901150707h10506e99reaa40c23e32ab18c@mail.gmail.com> <1232035561.5966.48.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1232046039.5966.54.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1232061429.5966.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1036 Lines: 22 On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, James Bottomley wrote: > > OK, so they could be calculated on the fly in the elevators, I suppose. > But what would the value be? Right now we use the nonrotational flag to > basically not bother with plugging (no point if no seek penalty) on > certain events where we'd previously have waited for other I/O to join. > But that's really a seek penalty parameter rather than the idea of read > or write costing (although the elevators usually track these dynamically > anyway ... as part of the latency calculations but not explicitly). ... not bother with plugging (no point if no seek penalty) ... I thought there was considerable advantage to plugging writes (in case they turn out to be adjacent) on current and older generations of non-rotational storage? Hugh -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/