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Dave Jones <davej@suse.de>:
>  This is something I never understood. CML1 has served us for
>  10 years or so, and suddenly its declared "unfixable".

Yes, and not by me.  By the people who wrote it.

>  "I'm not hacking that, I'll fix it in CML2" seemed to become
>  the attitude. End result ? Linus got pissed off with your
>  complaints of non-inclusion, and _fixed_ one of the CML1 problems
>  (Configure.help) And how long did it take ? ISTR it was around
>  an hour after his first mail was sent to you, me & Jeff.
>  1 hour. Versus the year you spent procrastinating about how
>  CML2 would fix it.
> 
>  Sure CML2 fixes some bits that are not easily fixed in CML1,
>  but I wonder sometimes how much of it is/was fixable.

The first thing I heard, from mec two years ago, was "the CML1 code
base is not salvageable".  This was then and is now the unanimous opinion of
the kbuild team.  Not just mine; in fact, they concluded it before
I entered the picture.

I have seen nothing since to make me change that opinion.
-- 
		<a href="http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
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