Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:50:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:49:52 -0500 Received: from dsl254-112-233.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([216.254.112.233]:19731 "EHLO golux.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:49:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:22:58 -0500 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: Larry McVoy , Richard Gooch , Dave Jones , Arjan van de Ven , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Disgusted with kbuild developers Message-ID: <20020215172258.E15406@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: "Eric S. Raymond" , Larry McVoy , Richard Gooch , Dave Jones , Arjan van de Ven , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20020215141433.B11369@thyrsus.com> <20020215195818.A3534@pc1-camc5-0-cust78.cam.cable.ntl.com> <20020215145421.A12540@thyrsus.com> <20020215124255.F28735@work.bitmover.com> <20020215153953.D12540@thyrsus.com> <20020215221532.K27880@suse.de> <20020215155817.A14083@thyrsus.com> <200202152209.g1FM9PZ00855@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <20020215165029.C14418@thyrsus.com> <20020215143807.L28735@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020215143807.L28735@work.bitmover.com>; from lm@bitmover.com on Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 02:38:07PM -0800 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Larry McVoy : > Perhaps they don't like the results of your efforts and they resent what > they perceive to be end runs around the normal process of getting changes > accepted. As well they should. Your attempt to avoid peer review is ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > disgusting, it's the worst of what happens in closed source shops when > marketing forces the wrong answer in over the objections of the people > who have to live with it. Yuck. I've "avoided peer review" really effectively, yeah. Unanimous support from the kbuild team. Three other projects using the software. Dozens of beta testers. Nope, no review at all there. Ain't I clever? -- Eric S. Raymond - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/