Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 19:09:17 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 19:09:08 -0500 Received: from ip68-3-107-226.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.3.107.226]:63904 "EHLO grok.yi.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 19:08:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3C6DA313.6000408@candelatech.com> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:08:51 -0700 From: Ben Greear Organization: Candela Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Larry McVoy CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Disgusted with kbuild developers In-Reply-To: <20020215195818.A3534@pc1-camc5-0-cust78.cam.cable.ntl.com> <20020215145421.A12540@thyrsus.com> <20020215124255.F28735@work.bitmover.com> <20020215153953.D12540@thyrsus.com> <20020215221532.K27880@suse.de> <20020215155817.A14083@thyrsus.com> <200202152209.g1FM9PZ00855@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <20020215165029.C14418@thyrsus.com> <20020215143807.L28735@work.bitmover.com> <20020215232312.GB12204@merlin.emma.line.org> <20020215153636.D32005@work.bitmover.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Larry McVoy wrote: > On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 12:23:12AM +0100, Matthias Andree wrote: > >>Are you telling that kernel programmers don't rewrite code from scratch? >>Is that a correct interpretation of "improve the existing system"? Note >>that "it can't be done" can also imply "cannot reasonable be done". >> >>If that's not what you mean, stop reading this mail, drop a line to >>clarify this and forget this piece of mail. >> > > That's not what I mean. But it's worthwhile to note that almost all > "rewrite from scratch" projects really translate into "I'm unwilling to > learn what the last guy did, and I'm smarter, so I'm going to do what > I want to do". And that is not what kernel programmers do. They would > love to be able to do that but it's very rare that doing so makes sense. I have to call bullshit on this one! :) The kernel is always getting some module replaced by some other module. Everything from the VM to the recent ALSA merge that will kill OSS. This is not to claim it's always a good thing, just that you can't claim this is not what kernel programmers do... Hell, we gotta be some of the most egotistical folks around, it's what keeps us going! -- Ben Greear President of Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com ScryMUD: http://scry.wanfear.com http://scry.wanfear.com/~greear - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/