Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:37:36 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:37:26 -0500 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:25093 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:37:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3C6E8ABA.78F360BB@mandrakesoft.com> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:37:14 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik Organization: MandrakeSoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.17-2mdksmp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: esr@thyrsus.com CC: Nicolas Pitre , That Linux Guy , lkml Subject: Re: Disgusted with kbuild developers In-Reply-To: <20020216095039.L23546@thyrsus.com> <20020216110857.B32129@thyrsus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Let's suppose we ignored this point for a moment. Let's also suppose > that what you were demanding were not rendered horribly painful and > perhaps impossible by the difference between CML1's imperative style > and CML2's declarative one. > > How the hell do you possibly think I could possibly stay motivated under > that constraint? Nobody is paying me to do this. I'm a volunteer; I > need to produce good art, not waste time slavishly recreating old errors > just because a few people are unreasonably fearful of change. If you are not prepared to evolve the system, you are not familiar with kernel development... Prove that CML2 is good and needed by breaking it up into steps, reaching the final goal... Good ole Al Viro's patch progressions are an excellent example to emulate :) Jeff -- Jeff Garzik | "Why is it that attractive girls like you Building 1024 | always seem to have a boyfriend?" MandrakeSoft | "Because I'm a nympho that owns a brewery?" | - BBC TV show "Coupling" - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/