Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 12:42:40 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 12:42:30 -0500 Received: from dsl254-112-233.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([216.254.112.233]:61192 "EHLO golux.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 12:42:16 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 12:16:34 -0500 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: Larry McVoy , Jeff Garzik , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Possible breakthrough in the CML2 logjam? Message-ID: <20020216121634.A1582@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: "Eric S. Raymond" , Larry McVoy , Jeff Garzik , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20020215213833.J27880@suse.de> <1013810923.807.1055.camel@phantasy> <20020215232832.N27880@suse.de> <3C6DE87C.FA96D1D6@mandrakesoft.com> <20020216095202.M23546@thyrsus.com> <3C6E7C75.A6659D72@mandrakesoft.com> <20020216105219.A31001@thyrsus.com> <3C6E8A15.D5C209B1@mandrakesoft.com> <20020216115739.B32311@thyrsus.com> <20020216093727.F9357@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020216093727.F9357@work.bitmover.com>; from lm@bitmover.com on Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 09:37:27AM -0800 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Larry McVoy : > > I need you to tell Linus that your concerns have been met > > and sponsor CML2 to go in, so I can stop perpetually re-fighting old > > battles. > > That's a fine thing for anyone and everyone to say *after* they have > used the system and like it. > > If you are asking for a blessing in advance, which is how I read that, > I would think there is zero chance of that happening, it's not how work > is done on the kernel. We're talking about design objections here. Specific objections to actual CML2 bugs, including rulebase and UI bugs, are a different level. What I am asking is if Jeff will bless the *architecture* provided the global- dependency issue is met. -- Eric S. Raymond - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/