Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761312AbZAWJX2 (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:23:28 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754717AbZAWJXO (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:23:14 -0500 Received: from mx3.mail.elte.hu ([157.181.1.138]:47966 "EHLO mx3.mail.elte.hu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754465AbZAWJXM (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:23:12 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:23:06 +0100 From: Ingo Molnar To: Mandeep Baines Cc: fweisbec@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rientjes@google.com, mbligh@google.com, thockin@google.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] softlockup: remove hung_task_check_count Message-ID: <20090123092306.GB29820@elte.hu> References: <20090122083457.GC7438@elte.hu> <20090122195513.GA22146@google.com> <1fe6c7900901221921m586b129dwf8c3446f897b57f0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1fe6c7900901221921m586b129dwf8c3446f897b57f0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-ELTE-VirusStatus: clean X-ELTE-SpamScore: -1.5 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamVersion: ELTE 2.0 X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-1.5 required=5.9 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no SpamAssassin version=3.2.3 -1.5 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1437 Lines: 37 * Mandeep Baines wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Mandeep Singh Baines wrote: > > > > The unlock and lock could be removed and only compiled in if PREEMPT. > > If the number of tasks isn't bound, the lock might be held too long. > > > > This is incorrect. The adding the lock and unlock will not make the > system more pre-emptive. To be more pre-emptive you'd want to check > need_resched() as often as possible. > > > It would be kinda funny if hung_task caused a softlockup. > > > > Again. This is incorrect. Rescheduling if need_resched() will prevent > softlockup. > > Not sure what I was thinking this morning;) > > However, I am happy with the patch. To give writers a chance, the lock > should held for bounded time. Holding the lock in khungtask (which is > running at low scheduler priority) could potentially be delaying > important work. The longer the lock is held, the bigger the priority > inversion problem. not sure i like the whole idea of removing the max iterations check. In theory if there's a _ton_ of tasks, we could spend a lot of time looping there. So it always looked prudent to limit it somewhat. Ingo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/