Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753794AbZAYJfX (ORCPT ); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:35:23 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751813AbZAYJfG (ORCPT ); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:35:06 -0500 Received: from www.tglx.de ([62.245.132.106]:36980 "EHLO www.tglx.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751806AbZAYJfE (ORCPT ); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:35:04 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:34:38 +0100 (CET) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Jon Masters cc: Lee Revell , linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, LKML , williams , "Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" Subject: Re: [RT] [RFC] simple SMI detector In-Reply-To: <1232845026.3990.71.camel@perihelion.bos.jonmasters.org> Message-ID: References: <1232751312.3990.59.camel@perihelion.bos.jonmasters.org> <75b66ecd0901231833j2fda4554sb0f47457ab838566@mail.gmail.com> <1232845026.3990.71.camel@perihelion.bos.jonmasters.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LFD 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1155 Lines: 26 On Sat, 24 Jan 2009, Jon Masters wrote: > > The only reasonable thing you can do on a SMI plagued system is to > > identify the device which makes use of SMIs. Legacy ISA devices and > > USB are usually good candidates. If that does not help, don't use it > > for real-time :) > > Indeed. This is why I wrote an smi_detector that sits in kernel space > and can be reasonably sure measured discrepancies are attributable to > SMI behavior. We want to log and detect such things before RT systems > are deployed, not have users actively trying to work around SMI overhead > after the fact. Agreed. A tool to detect SMI disturbance is a good thing. It just needs to be documented that users should take the results and talk to their board vendor. I know that off the shelf hardware will not be fixed, but industrial grade hardware vendors usually have an interest to get such problems resolved. Thanks, tglx -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/