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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: SodaPop <soda@xirr.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Disgusted with kbuild developers
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 03:48:28 +0100
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On February 18, 2002 04:15 pm, SodaPop wrote:
> I can't believe you people, even if you are high level kernel
> maintainers.
>    
> The most major complaints I see against CML2 are that 'the
> behaviour is different from CML1' and 'CML2 has a whole bunch of
> "features" too which will be shoved down our throats'.
>           
> Duh!  That was the freaking point!  Granted I'm not a kernel hacking
> expert, but I've been building my own kernels since 1995 and I see
> definite value in having the side effects and grouping stuff in
> CML2.  I also see significant value in having the symbol set and
> rules provably coherent.
>                        
> You guys change the low level kernel interfaces all the time.  You
> change module interfaces out from underneath people every other
> month.  You depreciate malloc.h and replace it with slab.h and
> don't so much as give it a second thought, yet you bitch up a
> storm about how the changes in CML2 behaviour are unacceptable?

Right.  The bitching and moaning is stupid.  Lets move on.
                                                         
> You guys force changes down the throats of other people all the
> time.  Well now, in my lowly opinion, it's time for you to do what
> everyone else is already used to - choke it down, and comfort
> yourself by saying 'it was the right thing to do.'
>                                                  
> Looking forward to seeing CML2 in 2.5,

Yup.

-- 
Daniel
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