Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:08:35 +0100
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
       Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
       Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
       Jesse Brandeburg <jesse.brandeburg@gmail.com>,
       David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
       "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
       NetDev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
       pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pci: fix kexec with power state D3
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* Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:

> On Sunday 08 March 2009, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Sunday 08 March 2009, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > 
> > > * Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Sunday 08 March 2009, Yinghai Lu wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Impact: second kernel by kexec will have some pci devices working
> > > > > 
> > > > > Found one system with 82575EB, in the kernel that is kexeced, probe igb
> > > > > failed with -2.
> > > > > 
> > > > > it looks like the same behavior happened on forcedeth.
> > > > > try to check system_state to make sure if put it on D3
> > > > 
> > > > This is not enough, because the PM code doesn't change 
> > > > system_state and it uses pci_set_power_state too.
> > > > 
> > > > > Jesse Brandeburg said that we should do that check in core 
> > > > > code instead of every device driver.
> > > > 
> > > > Well, I'm not really sure.  The drivers are where the bug is.
> > > 
> > > So Yinghai has now written a driver fix and a generic code fix 
> > > as well and both are being rejected pointing to the other side? 
> > > 
> > > This really sucks for users (who'd be happy with any of the 
> > > patches) and the disagreement needs to be resolved ASAP.
> > 
> > I hope you read my other comment (that you deleted from the reply)?
> > 
> > If we're going to fix this at the core level along the Yinghai's patch lines,
> > we'll have to introduce a few additional values for system_state and make
> > suspend and hibernation code use them.
> > 
> > Do you think it's worth the effort, given that only a couple of drivers have
> > been found to be affected so far?
> 
> And, quite frankly, I'm not sure if users will be happy with 
> the $subject patch, because it _really_ breaks things (well, 
> the kexec users who don't use suspend might be, but surely 
> suspend users who don't use kexec won't).

Please note that i havent reviewed the patches and i did not 
take any sides in the discussion - i just flagged the maintainer 
ping-pong. As long as we pick one of the patches (or a third 
one) within a bound amount of time we should be fine :)

	Ingo
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