Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:00:18 -0700
From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@gmail.com>,
       "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
       Jouni Malinen <j@w1.fi>, Sujith <m.sujith@gmail.com>,
       Sujith <Sujith.Manoharan@atheros.com>,
       Senthilkumar Balasubramanian 
	<Senthilkumar.Balasubramanian@atheros.com>,
       "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
       Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
       Vasanthakumar Thiagarajan <vasanth@atheros.com>
Subject: Re: Staging, place holder for better company/community development
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On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 10:20:33PM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 12:41 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> 
> > > Staging drivers will typically be an extremely huge amount of crap that
> > > just floods mailing lists. I don't care about those I don't read, but I
> > > would prefer to not have wireless staging drivers cross the wireless
> > > list which makes it seem like somebody is actually interested in those
> > > drivers.
> > 
> > I was asked by the wireless maintainer and some of the wireless
> > developers to send such patches to the list, so that everyone knows
> > exactly what is going on in the staging tree.
> 
> This is a misrepresentation, a number of people have asked for this on
> specific drivers they are actively working on and that already are in
> usable shape.

Ok, so I'll be glad to not cc: the linux-wireless list if the maintainer
asks me to.

> > That's not true, some of them are being reworked as you type, to be a
> > "real" wireless driver eventually.
> > 
> > Incremental development over time is sometimes a good thing, instead of
> > total rewrites :)
> 
> Except it doesn't work for most of the wireless drivers you've sucked in
> without asking any wireless developers whether that makes any sense or
> not.

Any specific examples?

thanks,

greg k-h
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