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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:03:11 +0100
From: "Giacomo A. Catenazzi" <cate@cateee.net>
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Subject: Re: Linux* Processor Microcode Data File
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Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:34:50 +0000
> Sitsofe Wheeler <sitsofe@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 08:11:09AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>>> On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:16:55 +0000
>>> Sitsofe Wheeler <sitsofe@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The kernel doesn't load microcode automatically 
>>> it does if you have the right format; the kernel uses
>>> request_firmware() for this.
>>> The microcode on the intel website is not ready for this yet, but
>>> we're working hard to have future drops to be in the new format.
>> Wow so I was redundant AND wrong in the same email!
>>
>> What motivated the switch to the generic request_firmware interface?
>> Is it just less messy/faster than previous methods? 
> 
> there are various cases where microcode is needed (for example, when
> you hotplug a new cpu); request_firmware() is just the right way to do
> such things, and an initscript is just the wrong way

I don't agree ;-)
I agree that request_firmware method is better than init.d scripts, but
not that it is the right things. microcodes should be loaded at very
beginning of boot process, so by BIOS, by GRUB or on hotpug event by
request_firmware.
BTW: why do we have microcode loading modular?

Offtopic: IMHO if we could move the load of firmware before booting
linux, it would be nicer and cleaner (by open source point of view).

ciao
	cate

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