Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 15:25:34 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 15:25:24 -0500 Received: from mail.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91]:64295 "EHLO mail.libertysurf.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id convert rfc822-to-8bit; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 15:25:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 22:24:22 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= X-X-Sender: To: Greg KH cc: Jeff Garzik , Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.5-pre1 IDE cleanup 9 In-Reply-To: <20020222200750.GE9558@kroah.com> Message-ID: <20020221221842.V1779-100000@gerard> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Greg KH wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 10:01:14PM +0100, G?rard Roudier wrote: > > > > I have investigated it, but it didn't seem to allow the boot order set by > > user in sym53c8xx HBA NVRAMs to be applied, breaking as a result all > > systems depending on it. Since it is transparently handled by the > > sym53c8xx driver and just behaves _as_ user expects, my guess is that > > numerous users may just have their system relying on it. > > But as Jeff noted, it is _required_ for PCI hotplug functionality. > Because allmost all of the SCSI drivers are not using this over 2 year > old interface, they will not work properly on large machines that now > support PCI hotplug. Much to my dismay. > > Init order works off of PCI probing order. If the network people can > handle this, the SCSI people can :) > > > Propose a kernel API that does not break more features that it adds and I > > will be glad to use it. > > Huh? This is not a new API. What does it break for you? Thanks for the reply. But my concern is user convenience in _average_ here. Basically, I want the 99% of users that cannot afford neither need nor want PCI hotplug to have their system just dead in order to make happy the 1%. In other word, I donnot care about this 1% if it makes run a tiny risk to the 99% to get inconvenience a single second. Btw, I am among the 99%. G?rard. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/