Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:30:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:30:00 -0500 Received: from 20.208.phc.net ([208.185.198.20]:14493 "EHLO iteusa-nt.itexinc.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id convert rfc822-to-8bit; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:29:41 -0500 Subject: RE: Dlink DSL PCI Card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 14:33:48 -0800 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Dlink DSL PCI Card Thread-Index: AcG7xcX+CkOexvgbTySx1hAll6Om4wAKhFaQ From: "Dave Rattay [ITeX]" To: "Stephan von Krawczynski" , "Benjamin LaHaise" Cc: , , , , "ITeX Tech Support" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Stephan, I am not sure if you actually requesting anything but here are some points on this matter. First and foremost we do not make these cards. They are made by our customers that we supply chips for. We do make the drivers for these boards but they can then be customized by our customers. The point is that we do support Linux for our customers and our customers are not really end-users. Now since end-users are indirectly our customers we do supply Linux drivers on request. Also if we cannot meet a request for any reason that information is added to our Marketing data for future driver development. Due to previous licensing agreements we cannot release our source code to anyone including our direct customers and there is no way around that. Sorry. Now if you have a request for a driver please let me know the kernel version being used as well as the ADSL protocol that you have. I will see what I can do to get you a usable driver. Thank you for your interest in ITeX Dave Rattay Applications Engineer Integrated Telecom Express, Inc 400 Race St. San Jose, CA 95126 -----Original Message----- From: Stephan von Krawczynski [mailto:skraw@ithnet.com] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:20 AM To: Benjamin LaHaise Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk; egberts@yahoo.com; lkml@secureone.com.au; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; ITeX Tech Support Subject: Re: Dlink DSL PCI Card On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:36:00 -0500 Benjamin LaHaise wrote: > I did some digging on the chipset used by the dlink card, and its made by the > folks at http://www.itexinc.com/ . They claim Linux support, but only in the > form of an infrequently updated binary only module that is only available > through OEMs. Unfortunately, they're uncooperative in providing documentation > for writing an open source driver. It would be Really Nice if the guidelines > on the use of the Linux trademark prevented claims of Linux support without > driver source (ie, forcing binary only module drivers to be marketed as > "partial Linux support through kernel specific binary modules"). I guess I would prefer the hard line: if it states "linux support" there has to be a driver source - or at least full docs for _any_ requesting parties. Otherwise the trademark should not be useable at all. If you provide several "stages" of support, poor "Aunt Tilly" user (is this already tm'ed? :-) won't be able to understand the difference - and you distro-guys (this is not meant to be a BadName) want this type of user to a certain extent. But this is a very purist point of view. Beat me, Stephan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/