Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757198AbZCVXxs (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:53:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756856AbZCVXxe (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:53:34 -0400 Received: from queueout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.56]:44600 "EHLO queueout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757226AbZCVXxb convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:53:31 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:35:02 +0000 From: Ken Moffat To: Baybal Ni Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: My new fancy font for framebuffer Message-ID: <20090322233502.GC1114@deepthought> References: <20090321111520.5fb73195@infradead.org> <49C5BBE8.6010906@zytor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=puF0QrJjVYcQqkOTLSAA:9 a=6w4odNvU9xOERIbFtZ4A:7 a=rS0MNBASWLihun_yYwDOonhdP10A:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1695 Lines: 37 On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 06:22:11PM +0900, Baybal Ni wrote: > > Yes, but we want it to be bundled in kernel, for me it is the only > option for systems with qvga screens or so on. Old fonts were nice > only on CRT displays, but on TFTs they are giving too much load on > eyes and brain. More clean contoured fonts are effectively cutting it. Who are the "we" who want it to be in the kernel ? There are _many_ available screen fonts, and I can understand people being unhappy with the common existing fonts, particularly once messages move beyond English into whatever locale you are using (I use my own variant console font [1] to cover most European languages with letter forms that I find easy to read), but what specific problem does putting terminus in the kernel solve ? e.g. are the kernel's boot messages *before* you run 'setfont' illegible ? If so, what is your specific hardware ? I've been using only TFTs for a few years, and I don't see any significant problems, only questions of preferred letter shapes and glyph coverage. But then, I'm a native English speaker, so I have to be willing to accept that a font I find easy to read might not be easy for people who do not normally use a latin alphabet. If that applies to you, you need to provide reasons why this belongs in the kernel instead of userspace. ken [1] sigma-consolefonts - you probably won't like it ;-) -- das eine Mal als Trag?die, das andere Mal als Farce -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/